Anti barking collar?
I bought a citronella anti barking collar for my barking howling beagle. I love her to bits and my neighbours arent happy she can really howl and bark. Now I am a huge animal lover. so before I am attacked I want to say i want peoples opinion, is removing their vocal cords cruel?
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Tags: animal lover, anti-barking collar, neighbours, vocal cords
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Debarking a dog is not "cruel". It isn’t my first choice and I, personally, have never done it to one of my own dogs. But if a dog is in danger of losing his home, it may be an option, but should be the last resort.
First, I try training (real training), then the citronella collar, then an electronic collar and only as a last resort would I debark a dog.
You have been receiving some really bad advice on this topic regarding your neighbor and allowing your dog to go on and bark. If you own the dog, you are responsible for the nuisance it causes – including barking (noise). Your neighbors didn’t get to vote on whether you were going to own a breed known for barking, howling and carrying on. You dont’ have the right to impose your lack of control of your pet on the neighborhood. If you push that angle, you’ll lose. All communities have nuisance laws. You can be cited by the police or animal control if you don’t tone that dog down. You can lose him entirely. This is a serious matter and you should not have the mentality that your neighbors must endure your dog’s nonsense – they won’t. You will be fined and you could lose your dog. This is your responsibility and you CAN do something to stop it without causing the dog to lose it’s home or possibly it’s life. Disgruntled neighbors have been known to poison or otherwise kill an annoying dog if some other legal means of quieting that dog down do not work. You need to address this problem – NOW. Get a trainer. Get some help. If that means debarking – so be it. Your neighbors have already warned you. They are fed up. Be responsible and quiet your dog.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
There can be serious complications from cutting the vocal cords. discuss them with our vet
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
yes
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
You already know the answer to that. Yes. It’s cruel. Take your dog to obedience school and have someone help you stop her from barking all the time.
And tell the neighbours to shove off. Would you consider removing a child’s vocal cords? Because children can REALLY scream…and scream…and scream. Somehow I doubt your neighbours would complain too much if it was a baby, but because it’s a dog they just don’t care.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
How about having yours removed first and deciding from there?
She’s a beagle. Barking and howling is what they DO. It’s what they’ve been bred for for generations.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Yes. Debarking a dog is extremely cruel, and I would consider it on par with declawing a cat.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
http://www.petsafe.net/bark_control/bark_control.php?L=1&PROD_CODE=PBC-302
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Yes, it is also very detrimental to the dog as they can no longer communicate with other dogs. Try leaving your dog inside and rewarding your dog for quiet behavior outside first.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Try everthing first – it is cruel but sometimes a necessary cruelty. If you can’t move or find a place for your barker this may be the only way to keep her from the shelter.
Just make sure the vet does it right – sometimes they come out of it with a horrible horse sounding voice.
Good Luck.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Yes. And that should never be an option. Dogs bark, plain and simple, if you can’t handle that and aren’t willing to train your dog to bark when appropriate maybe you should try owning a cat.
Where is your dog kept? Try brining your dog inside. Less to bark at inside.
Your dog is probably bored and lonely. When dogs left outside get bored and lonely they will find ways to occupy their time.
If you love her to bits, bring her inside.
Dogs bark, plain and simple, if you can’t handle that and aren’t willing to train your dog to bark when appropriate maybe you should try owning a cat
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
look debarking a dog is a surgery, it is not considered cruelity to animals since it doesnt cause them pain or any intense aftermath since they can still act like they are barking jus tno noise will come out. I am sure there are exceptions to this but we debarked a few at my vets and it came out fine.
the collars are a MUCH easier method and is worth a try. try out the citernella first before you ever try the shock collars.
and to teh person who said to go to obdience classes, you obviously have never owned a beagle, its instinct for them to bark like that, and chances are it will take years to train it out of them!
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Isn’t barking one of the things that makes a dog a dog?
You happen to have a breed that is a barker and a howler. If she’s in your house and is barking and howlling, the neighbors really can’t complain. If she’s outside doing it, they might be able to complain. But she’s a dog, it’s what they do, it comes with the territory.
Before you decide to do this life changing surgery, if this is such an awful issue for you that you would consider doing this, perhaps the best thing would be for you to do some obedience training.
Honestly, if it doesn’t bother you….screw who it does bother.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
My dad raises beagles and I can tell you that they love to bark and howl. My dad’s do on occasion, and he usually only has to yell from the to quiet down.
I would NOT get your dog’s vocal cords removed, that to me is cruel. It takes away what comes natural, to bark, to be able to warn of danger, etc…
I would try that citronella collar and see how that goes, if that doesn’t work then try obdience classes. I think PetCo offers some.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Your better off to get rid of your dog as to remove there vocal cords is VERY VERY CRUEL. Would you want yours removed? Beagles are barkers and if you can’t put up with that then get rid of your dog. Barking is a dogs only way of telling you something if it’s wrong. They also bark to defend there home but you don’t sound like your an animal lover if you want to do that.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
yes a dog is always going too be a dog I would tell my neighbors to deal with it don’t have his vocal cord removed.
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
I know this is mean but get a Shock collar when ever the dog barks or maks noise it will shock it and it should stop
July 18th, 2010 at 5:22 am
Debarking a dog=Declawing a cat.
Most animal lovers consider declawing cats cruel(or at least I do). Try a dog trainer. As for the neighbors, it’s your dog, not theirs. And it’s their problem that she’s barking and howling all the time. That’s what they were made to do, just like babies are with crying.
July 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
You rule, will tell the friends on Petsafe Cat Flaps.
Cheers, will visit again.